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November 06, 2009

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sarah

I'm not sure that "alone time" is the culprit here. Much could be said about our lack of intention (simply put, if you don't have a plan of attack, then you're likely to behave impulsively)...about our lack of accountability.

The bottom line is...we don't desire purity. As a culture, we exalt sexuality; as a Church, we have failed to set ourselves apart from that exaltation.

Having said that...I think you can lust just as easily in Starbucks as you can in the back seat of the car. Jesus made no distinction between lusting after someone and adultery. If we pursued purity, and were in a healthy accountability relationship with someone, and set realistic guides, we might be farther from Starbucks AND the back seat.

Micah spoke at I.V. once about purity. He gave some great guidelines for dating, like... keep your feet on the floor. And...there's no reason to take your clothes off. And...stay out of the strike zone." I think we would be far better to teach and practice guides like this than to simply disallow the kind of alone-time that a couple needs.

And as a woman...I would say that alone-time is important.

Ben Lemery

I agree with you on further teaching and desiring purity but I am setting a baseline to start somewhere. The main point is, we don't want to sacrifice the things that get us into trouble. I think out of over a hundred guys I have walked through on this stuff, 2 have been successful at not crossing lines when they are alone. That is a staggering unscientific statistic if you ask me.

Woman or man, you can have intimacy without being alone in private. You can be just as alone at Starbucks as you could walking through a park. There is simply no reason why you need to be alone in an apartment or your bedroom. That's what marriage is for.

We blur the lines way to much, that's what I am taking to task here.

sarah

Extremes never work well, Ben.

I'm not advocating for having date night in a bedroom. But dating relationships (leading toward marriage) are just like any other friendship in that they require personal attention and time; they require boundaries and accountability. You don't achieve this by simply saying, "we'll never be in a private setting."

I appreciate what you're trying to do here, and I think you're headed in the right direction with it. I'm just concerned that you've got a baby-and-bathwater type of situation. You've gotta be careful what you toss.

I vote: no kissing. It is usually the kissing that leads to trouble.

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